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« on: March 23, 2011, 09:12:43 AM »

So, i finally got some time to put up some picts of what ive been working on over this past winter.  Since I have a lot of junk vehicles and parts laying around I decided to build a truck for skidding wood.  I plan on using the following parts:
  • 1943 dodge WC52 frame and front pto winch with 1953 Power Wagon body
  • 4.0L motor from my 83 CJ7 (originally from a 95 cherokee) mated to:
  • Jeep T18 with PTO for front winch mated to a  Dana 20 T-case
  • Divorced Ford NP205 with PTO for rear winch
  • High pinion Dana 60 front and Dana 60 Rear from my 79 F350
  • Wrangler leaf springs for the front, Coil Rear
  • Big braden pto winch for the rear (12klb) pull
  • Hummer H1 bead locks with some tire in the 38 to 44" size range

Everything is subject to change but this is the current game plan.


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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 06:42:26 PM »

Got some time again to upload some picts.  Will work towards current progress (which is barely anything).  Can only do 4 at a time.  I didn't include any disassembly because everybody knows how to pull crap apart, which is the funnest part in my opinion. 
The first is the firewall being cut for clearance of the 4.0L.  Engine sticks back into the cab about 6 inches.
The second is of the Dana 60 in place with wrangler leaf springs.  I kept the geometry the same as the stock F350 so i didn't have to modify the spring perches.  The wrangler and ford geometry were about the same anyways.  Makes it easier to swap in junkyard parts as necessary.
The forth is of the Ford divorced 205 with the pto for the rear winch.  Big and heavy and has proven a pain to properly place.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 06:50:41 PM »

I guessed that the PTO's for a T98 transmission from a Kaiser M715 would fit the Jeep T18 tranny and found a NOS one on ebay.  So far it seems to mesh with the tranny but takes up a lot of room.  It hangs in the way of the front drive shaft at compression from ride height.  Of course I didn't find the PTO until after i had the motor, t-case and front suspension all in.  I was going to run the front winch off of the first t-case with a funky chain drive system.

The third picture is of the original t-case mount.  Of course i had to change it to get a better rear drive angle which leads to the 4th photo with it lowered another 2 inches.  Hans stated that it looks like i'm building it out of legos.  It just temporary until if figure something less messed up.  It could have been laid down nice and flat if it wasn't for the rear pto.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 07:01:09 PM »

The pretty crappy drive line angle between the two t-cases.  The shaft is 8 inches and is almost at the limits of the u-joints mobility.  I imagine it will be wearing out the joints alot.

I cut the frame off of the rear winch and put it on the frame to check t-case placement and other random crap. 

The forth photo is the main reason I decided to remove the back half of the frame and start from scratch.  It was thin in several places and I didn't think it would take to the stress that the big winch was going to put on it without a lot of plating/boxing in.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 07:07:21 PM »

This is why I need a new garage.  I was lifting the front axle up on the driver side with a Highlift jack to compress the suspension to see how screwed i was going to be with the front drive shaft by the front pto assembly.  As fortune has it the floor jack on the opposite side went through my crappy floor and the whole vehicle shifted sideways stuffing the hub through the wall. 

My poor ford all up on blocks with nowhere to go.  I guess it would be more redneck if it was a camaro in my front yard.  But for bonus points I was tool lazy to unhook the plow blade.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 07:16:32 PM »

1)  Yes it is ugly, especially without a rear frame.
2)  Proof that a Ford can haul a Dodges ass.
3)  Frame all welded and plated in with the body mounts re-attached
4)  Fresh coat of rattle can primer at 30°=runs

I figured a flat surface would be easier to mount the winch, suspension points and anything else i can think of.  The frame rails are 5" c-channel and the rear is a combination of 3X6X1/4 tube and 1/4" plate. 
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